DON'T CUT THE GROUND PLANE. This advice is shouted on every electronic design forum on the web. And for good reason. Cutting the ground plane disrupts the noise currents that normally flow on the outside edge due to skin effect, and may actually increase noise coupled into critical circuits.
The problem of noise and crosstalk is particularly difficult when prototyping high frequency circuits. It may not be desirable to go directly into pcb layout until the grounding issues are completely understood. But conventional prototyping methods make it difficult to get a clear picture of what is needed to obtain the lowest noise.
I plan to give a more detailed description of this method with photos, but in the meantime here is a brief summary I sent in an email:
One last point is the input of the 74AC04 will be sensitive to any
stray noise from the DDS clock and other logic switching in the
vicinity.
I minimize this by mounting the 74AC04 on a separate platform made
from a small piece of double-sided copperclad about 0.020" thick.
All the bypass caps are grounded to the top layer of the copperclad,
along with the ground for the 74AC04. A single ground goes from the
copperclad to the rest of the system ground. I try several points
around the periphery to select one that gives the lowest crosstalk.
This keeps all the input signals on their own reference plane, and
minimizes unwanted signals from climbing up onto the top plane where
they can cause interference and crosstalk.
When you are making a prototype, the bottom layer of the copperclad
can be soldered directly to your regular ground plane. This makes a
very solid mounting for the parts, but you can unsolder the top pcb
and move it if necessary to give room for other circuitry. I put a
45 degree bevel on the copperclad to provide a bit of relief so the
solder doesn't short the top side to ground.
This method gives the best performance of any that I have tried, and
works well into the microwave frequencies, up to the limit of FR4
(about 3GHz).
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Mon Jan 05, 2009: Keven Wheatley, M0KHZ, posted some nice words about this page in his blog:
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Dedicated to the world of homebrew amateur radio.
Possible improvements to current H mode mixer performance
January 5th, 2009
This is a short blog update, pointing the reader to visit Mike Monett's, Precision System Technologies, web site.
Following the announcement from Martin - PA3AKE regarding the AM noise issue from the current top end DDS chips from Analog Devices, Mike contacted me with some very interesting and helpful information. Mike has developed a couple of techniques to improve the output of a 74AC04 hex inverter, commonly used to convert sine wave to square wave in SDR's and H mode mixers. For the experimenter I highly recommend following this link:
Mike has also investigated the effects of power supply ripple on the above inverter, this also very good reading, once again I highly recommend following this link:
All of the above information will be of interest to the experimenter, I believe this information may also lead to increased performance from the current `state of the art' H mode mixer.
Apr 16, 2010 Kevin has taken his blog offline, but google still has a reference to his page. Here's the result obtained while searching google for this url: http://pstca.com/spice/pstpp/pstpp.htm
M0KHZ's Blog » Ham interest http://pstca.com/spice/pstpp/pstpp.htm.
All of the above information will be of interest to the
experimenter, I believe this information may also lead to ...
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Fri, 19 Jun 2009: I posted a link to this page in the Time-Nuts forum. Here's a partial copy:
I'm seriously considering making the 53310A DC power section into a switcher. I have developed some techniques that greatly reduce crosstalk by mounting circuits on their own grounded platform. These have a minimum number of connections to the main system ground, and are chosen to minimize switching currents from flowing on the main system ground. I put a brief description of the PST Prototype Platform on my web site at
Another technique that can help is adding an active filter to the output of the power supply. These can be very effective, but there are a number of approaches that are well-publicized that don't work very well. There is more analysis here:
Finally, Linear Technology supplies Low Noise Switching Regulators that can give ripple values of less than 100uV, which is comparable to or less than many linear regulators. If interested, see the links in the above url.
Noise can be a tricky problem, but the above information might give some ideas to help tame it.
Mon, 27 Jul 2009 Dr. Eric Bogatin, of Bogatin Enterprises, asked for suggestions to his list of Common Sense Signal Integrity Principles. I sent him an email describing my technique, and here's his reply:
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Subject: Re: blog post: common sense signal integrity
>> Hi-
>> I thought you might be interested in my recent blog posting:
>> Common Sense Signal Integrity Principles: a
>> <http://bethesignal.net/blog/> Baker's Dozen. If you have a
>> favorite common sense principle I left off the list, drop me a
>> note or post a comment.
>> eric
>>Dr Eric Bogatin, Signal Integrity Evangelist
>>Bogatin Enterprises
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> Hi Eric,
> I want to thank you for the invaluable information you provide in
> signal integrity. I learn a lot from your efforts.
> One trick I have learned to minimize crosstalk is to put critical
> circuits on their own section of ground plane. This helps to keep
> switching transients local.
> The sub-ground is connected to the main ground plane at places
> that minimize crosstalk. Ideally, high-speed data transmission
> lines are be differential to minimize crosstalk from ground
> currents, but single-ended lines can be placed near the common
> ground point.
> This is also very useful when prototyping. A brief note describing
> the PST Prototype Platform is at
> http://pstca.com/spice/pstpp/pstpp.htm
> Regards,
> Mike Monett
Mike-
Thanks for the tip!
--eric
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Tue, 08 Sep 2009: I posted a link to this page in the Time-Nuts forum. Here's a partial copy:
Re: [time-nuts] HP 5071A Electron Multiplier of Cesium Beam Tube
Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:20:48 -0700
[...]
So the question is what kind of tweaking is needed to get the best performance in a regenerative divider, and what kind of equipment is needed to do it? Then, is perfection really needed in order to beat the Wenzel ULN? Maybe put up with lower performance in the beginning, then upgrade later.
BTW, I love your construction techniques. Everything on ground plane in shielded boxes, such as
One trick I have found that really helps isolate circuit blocks is to put them on their own small island pcb, which is then soldered to the main ground plane to hold it in place. Then find the location of ground connections that give the lowest crosstalk. A brief description is here.
I need to post some pictures to show how easy it is to mount descrete components like caps, transistors and ics. Hopefully I may find the time to do that soon. But this is now my preferred method of construction, both for convenience and very low crosstalk.
Fri, 20 Nov 2009 John Larkin, of Highland Technology, was one of the most vocal advocates of not cutting the ground plane, as referenced in the first sentence at the top of this page.
However, he now cuts the ground plane in his latest products, then bridges the gap to the noisy plane with a few thin traces. However, since skin effect forces the high frequency noise currents to flow along the edges of the board, the currents on the noisy plane will still intermingle with the currents on the main ground plane.
This is not the same as leaving the original ground plane intact and having a separate plane that is attached only at one or only a few points. A separated, isolated ground plane, as described above, is far more effective in keeping the noise currents separated, and has none of the disadvantages of cutting the main ground plane.
Here's John's post to sci.electronics.design on Nov 20, 2009:
From: John Larkin
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: day shot to hell
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:07:11 -0800
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:26:06 -0800, Joerg
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> don wrote:
>> John Larkin wrote:
>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/First.JPG
>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Swapped.jpg
> Hey John, you wasted lots of real estate there. Wish I could have
> some of that. Doing an EMC fix on a client design right now and I
> can't even shove one more 0402 part in there :-(>
We have lots of space for this one. We're replacing an
older-generation board that is about 6x or so of our board area.
You will be not-pleased to know that the switcher section has its
own rectangular ground plane section that is connected to the rest
of the plane through a number of thinnish slivers. The rows of
inductors, incoming and outgoing, straddle the plane gaps. The idea
is to keep the various circulating currents in the switchers from
leaking into the main ground plane where the analog stuff is. I did
the spread-spectrum thing on all the switchers, too.
John